No problem. And fantastic post. This is really going to help me. I get heartily sick of hearing about 'buddies' and 'greatness' all the time, when the best thing about Ray's canon dialogue is the astonishing variety of it. In fic we never seem to hear, for instance 'Film at 11 or what?' (which he says in ALS).
Your tip about re-writing in different points of view is a great help; that may well stop me from slipping into Fraser or generic American when I'm trying to write him. Sadly, reading out loud never helps me because I can't get anywhere near his (Chicago cop played by a British-born, Canadian-raised actor) accent, but I suppose I'll just have to listen more carefully for his voice in my head.
There was another question I had about convincing RayK narrative, just in case you had any ideas. One of the things I find most difficult is that I have a completely different frame of reference to Ray. I grew up in a different decade and a different country. So if I want to write about, for instance, Ray at school, I have to look around the internet to work out the kind of clothes he might have worn. Because I wore a black blazer and a black pleat skirt to school. (And now I have this image of CKR in a black pleat skirt, but you take my point.) I was wondering if you ever have this problem with any of the characters? Considering we write about teh gay sex, having never experienced it, you wouldn't think this would be so much of a stumbling block, but for some reason it is.
This is going straight in my bookmarks, so I can come back to it next time I'm tearing my hair out over RayK dialogue. Thank you!
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Date: 2007-07-03 12:59 am (UTC)Your tip about re-writing in different points of view is a great help; that may well stop me from slipping into Fraser or generic American when I'm trying to write him. Sadly, reading out loud never helps me because I can't get anywhere near his (Chicago cop played by a British-born, Canadian-raised actor) accent, but I suppose I'll just have to listen more carefully for his voice in my head.
There was another question I had about convincing RayK narrative, just in case you had any ideas. One of the things I find most difficult is that I have a completely different frame of reference to Ray. I grew up in a different decade and a different country. So if I want to write about, for instance, Ray at school, I have to look around the internet to work out the kind of clothes he might have worn. Because I wore a black blazer and a black pleat skirt to school. (And now I have this image of CKR in a black pleat skirt, but you take my point.) I was wondering if you ever have this problem with any of the characters? Considering we write about teh gay sex, having never experienced it, you wouldn't think this would be so much of a stumbling block, but for some reason it is.
This is going straight in my bookmarks, so I can come back to it next time I'm tearing my hair out over RayK dialogue. Thank you!