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Hello, all. First time here, hi!

I'm a little late posting, mostly because my uploads were on the slow side and Windows Movie Maker kept crapping out on me. Also, a caveat: I'm really wordy. I'm trying to cut down. Please forgive me if I ramble or go on too long.

When I volunteered to talk about writing Fraser I had no idea what I was going to write and for a while there I thought I'd never come up with anything. I know Fraser is really hard to write for some authors but I wasn't sure how to try to make it less frustrating because Fraser comes really easy to me. It's like he lives in my head or something. I'm not as articulate in speaking as he is, but my writing style is a lot like Fraser's spoken conversation. It's actually the inverse with me: sometimes I have to really work at making my other characters NOT sound like Fraser. We also have similar issues around politeness and hurting people's feelings, and I get the part about a lonely childhood (although I'll argue that huge parts of Fraser's childhood weren't lonely at all).

So anyway, here goes:

First thing, and I do mean FIRST THING: Don't forget about canon.

We've all done it: We read fic after fic but don't see an episode of the actual show for weeks or even longer. Even if every fic we're reading is the cream of the crop, each one is still someone's interpretation which might have been based on someone else's interpretation and so on and so on. It's like that telephone game where a phrase is whispered around a room from person to person so that when the last one gets it there's no resemblance to the original phrase. My suggestion is to watch a few episodes, or even just a few scenes, if that's all you have time for.

For Fraser, I think it's a good idea to watch eps from S1-2 and S3-4. Fraser is an amalgam of the entire series in a way that neither Ray is because his character is ongoing, and also because he was for the most part shaped by two people with two very different concepts and writing styles.

Here is a tiny handful of recs of episodes/scenes that I think showcase Fraser well:

  • Red, White or Blue: There's a lot I love about this ep, but if you only have time to watch one part and you want to see really good Fraser, the number one reason to watch is the Synchronized Conversation between Fraser and Vecchio. It's an amazing scene in general; both actors nail it and it must have been killer to get the timing right. Written by Paul Gross but still during Paul Haggis' tenure as executive producer, it's also one of the best examples of Fraser voice I can think of. Fraser moves a lot in this scene as well, so if you want to study Fraser Kinetics 101, this is one of the best scenes.

    The next scene tells us how Fraser and Dief met. Yay backstory! I love this part of their history so much that I went and wrote a fic based on it.

  • Mask: Watch the whole thing. This ep is often overlooked because it doesn't have a lot of major quotes or standout speeches; it's just a lot of Fraser being Fraser. In this ep he interacts with people from very different parts of his life: Vecchio, Thatcher, childhood friends, etc. A lot of Fraser's personality (not to mention his worldview) comes out in these little bits of dialogue. I especially like the dynamic between Fraser and Eric because not only can we see the deep respect they have for one another, we also learn that Fraser's connection to the aboriginal peoples of his birthplace goes back a long way and helped form the way he sees the world. Eric's Tsimshian parable about the Raven stealing the Sun doesn't sound very different from Fraser's Inuit stories.

  • One Good Man: Watch this one for Fraser's filibuster of the Chicago court. It's a classic Fraserspeech with a whole bunch of backstory goodness that's gold to a fic writer.

  • Spy Vs. Spy: This scene is good stuff. Fraser moves a lot, he shows off his mad interrogation skillz, and he gives the "I First Came to Chicago" schpiel.

With a good base in canon, it's not only fine to read fic for inspiration, it's encouraged. There are some amazing authors out there who get Fraser so well it's like reading an episode of the show. I don't have room or time to rec them all here. You all know what your favourite Frasercentric fics are (or even other-centric; Fraser's voice and personality can be shown off really well by another character).

So. We have canon and fic to inspire and inform us. Now it's time to make a list (mental or written; written works better for me because I'm good at forgetting things): What makes Fraser, well. Fraser? What is does he do that makes up his essential personality? Even more important, what doesn't he do?

Fraser does:

  • Lie. Like a rug. His reasons for lying are often different from everyone else. He lies for Justice, to protect people he cares about, to push a favourite agenda through. He'll even occasionally lie to save face. One thing he won't do is lie for his own personal gain, or anyone else's. If you asked him he'd never admit he was lying. I'm not even sure he knows he's lying except in extreme life-or-death cases. Fraser is great at twisting words so they sound like the truth even if they're not.

  • Use contractions. This might be my biggest pet peeve in DS fic. Fraser does NOT use robot-speak. His vocabulary is huge, he uses a LOT of words, and his articulation is impeccable. His basic spoken conversation, though, is pretty normal. I've read too many fics that I would have really liked if Fraser hadn't said things like "If I am not smiling it is not because I am not happy for you, Ray, I just do not think it is wise to consider something this dangerous". Or, y'know, more robotics like that. Go back to the syncronized conversation and you'll see that there are lots of contractions in Fraserspeak.

  • Use run-on sentences. Watch the synchronised conversation scene for that, too. He uses parentheses ALL THE TIME, i.e. the little aside he says about how during Leap Year his uniform itches for 366 days. You can just about hear the parentheses wrapping around his words. The same goes for semicolons. You don't hear the periods/full stops nearly as often.

  • Get angry. Fraser gets plenty angry, just not that often. He's like a pot on slow boil. He'll simmer and stew if something bothers him, but if someone turns the heat up he'll boil over and then he's really, really scary. I've said it before: I'd hate to be object of a pissed-off Fraser's anger. Example: Gerard, who obviously didn't know Fraser as well as he thought or he would have realized when he ordered the hit on Bob that he'd be have one Enraged Mountie to deal with.

  • Have a sense of humour. Fraser has a killer sense of humour. It's just very, very dry, which means it's hard to see sometimes. She might not have meant it to be, but to me this scene from Resonant's American Way is a good example of Fraser's subtle sense of humour that isn't obvious until it bites you in the backside. It's also great Fraser voice in general:

    Fraser looked sheepish as they walked out onto the sidewalk. "I'm afraid I'm not doing very well."

    "Well, it's no wonder, when you got so many coaches," Ray said. "Look, you got any experience at all with impersonation?"

    "I'm afraid not, Ray. I was cast in the role of Alfie Doolittle for our high school production of 'My Fair Lady,' but on the night of the performance, the auditorium had to be closed due to the migration of ... it's not important."

    "Yeah, well, I never been onstage, but I done a little undercover work here and there. And the thing I learned, you can't be generic. You gotta be specific." They waited for the light, then started across the street. "I mean, you can't go to a meet thinking, Small-time runner looking to make big. You gotta have somebody in particular in mind, somebody you can think about and sorta get in the state of mind. See, you been trying to be some generic American, but that won't work. You gotta be somebody in particular." Ray steered them into the shade of a bank's awning. "You got it?"

    Fraser gave him a serious look. "I -- think so." His thumb came up in the direction of his eyebrow, and then he seemed to catch himself, and his hand stopped halfway to his face.

    "Yeah, you can't do all that fussy little fidget stuff there, Fraser. Shake it out." Ray shook out his arms encouragingly.

    Fraser began to follow his lead, shaking -- hands, arms, shoulders. Rolling his head on his neck, rolling his shoulders, and shaking, shaking.

    With every shake his shoulders got looser, his movements more fluid.

    Until at last he bent his head, leaned his shoulders against the bank's brick wall, stuck three fingers in his jeans pocket, and looked up at Ray through his eyelashes.

    Jesus. He looked like sex on a stick over there.

    "Who," Ray said a little hoarsely, "who the hell are you supposed to be?"

    Fraser raised his eyebrows and gave Ray an open-mouthed grin.

    "You, Ray."

  • Cry. Victoria's Secret, anyone?

Fraser doesn't:

  • Drink. I'm not talking about the fics where Fraser gets drunk and Stuff Ensues. I like Drunk!Fraser fics. They can be fun or angsty or erotic -- all sorts of wonderful things, and they're often an inroad to a really good character study. What I'm talking about is Fraser doing casual drinking on occasions other than something really out of the ordinary (I wrote a story where Fraser has ONE glass of some fancy Italian wine that Ray V. brought to Canada from Florida. I rationalised that this constituted a special occasion, but I do realise that it's somewhat out of character. I'm still not taking it out. *g*).

  • Sit around obsessing about Victoria: There are HOW many episodes after VS? Probably we'd see a little more Fraserangst in canon if he were irrevocably damaged over Victoria. Was there damage? Sure. Fraser has got to have serious abandonment issues given the number of people in his life who left him/betrayed him/up and died on him. Even so, I think a lot of healing was done in Letting Go and also in rebuilding Fraser's father's cabin. I wish we'd got to see the rebuilding happen in canon, but the good thing is all the fic that came out of that little F/V scene in LG.

  • Talk about his feelings much: [livejournal.com profile] aukestrel and I were talking earlier about Fraser's upbringing, specifically his grandparents and how they affected his moral code/worldview. We both agree that they probably weren't Puritan ogres; more likely they were intellectuals who were well-read and well-educated but total flops in the emotions department. Fraser didn't have much chance to learn about how to deal with his feelings, so he "shuts down", as Ray V. says, or he evades the issue by lapsing into big-word babble or Inuit stories when the subject comes up. Or by asking questions as a reply, like, "In what sense"?

  • Lack self-confidence In this scene, Fraser exudes self-confidence. Ray says he's a "sharp shooter, first class, could take the head off a pin" and Fraser responds, "He's right about that". He (mistakenly) believes himself part of a set-up and you can tell by his stance and tone of voice that he's in his element:

  • Fear women. Fraser stammers around his female admirers but it's not for lack of confidence, it's from lack of interest and embarrassment at being fawned over and objectified. I mean, really, this is NOT a guy who lacks self-confidence with a lover. He just has to be interested:

There are tons of other doeses and doesn'ts for Fraser. I could go on but I'm already late, so I'll let you make up the rest of your own lists.


Sometimes the problem isn't keeping Fraser IC, but keeping him from being too cliché. What helps me is having a backstory of my own outside of canon (not instead of canon, mind you). I didn't realise how much help it is until I wrote up a Fraser pseudocanon here. Not everyone will agree with your version of Fraser's backstory. I maintain that Fraser likes being called "Benton" as opposed to "Ben" and I get a lot of arguments. Conversely, people usually like the thought that Fraser learned both English and Inuktitut as milk languages. Since I'm not contradicted in canon, I can use both of them.

Using clichés in fic isn't a terrible thing because clichés weren't always clichés. Take Fraser's gestures: the Eyebrow Rub, the Neck Crack, the Collar Pull, the Tongue Thing. Those are all real, actual Fraser gestures (and if you've seen more than one interview, you might notice that they're also real, actual Paul Gross gestures). Use them, just don't OVERuse them. The exception to this is when a cliché is used deliberately. I read a scene in I don't remember what fic (someone help with this?) where Fraser rubs his eyebrow, cracks his neck, and pulls his collar in quick succession. His behaviour was written like that to emphasize that Fraser was very, very nervous. It worked.

Some other clichés are:

  • Yes, Fraser does say "Ray. Ray. Ray. Ray". I love that he does. Hey, it's one of my LJ interests! He uses Ray's name a lot, really. He just doesn't do the Repeat-a-Ray thing every five minutes nor does he end every single sentence with Ray's name.

  • He is polite as all heck. Except when he isn't (he's downright rude to Mackenzie King in One Good Man). He's rude to the people he thinks deserve it. And he can make his rudeness look ultra-polite. If Fraser's TOO polite and formal to someone it might be because he doesn't like them in the least.

  • He's not as ignorant of pop culture as a lot of writers make him out to be. Sure, he's never seen The Godfather, but I bet there were televisions around when he was a kid. Maybe not at his house, but certainly at Innusuq's house or one of his other friends' houses (Eric probably had one; his family brought their own to Fraser's apartment in "Mask"). One of my favourite scenes in fic ever is this one from [livejournal.com profile] aukestrel's Losing My Religion. Fraser has just finished singing a Christmas Carol and then this happens:

    And realise that I've been looking at him way too long. His grin has turned quizzical.

    "Another one, Frase? You know Joy to the World?"

    And that goddamn Mountie, the one who's lived in igloo land all his life without television or, probably, a stereo, opens his mouth and sings, "Jeremiah was a bullfrog, was a good friend of mine..."

    I'm laughing so hard I can hardly hear him, but I manage to join in on the chorus. It's a two person song anyhow. You gotta have someone to sing the percussion. Not that I sing, but I can do ba da bom as well as anyone. And I can't not join in on the making sweet love verse, as long as I don't look at Fraser, who's singing as unselfconsciously as always.

So the thing is, do use the cliché to further a plot point or illustrate an emotion. Use it in general because hey, it's not a cliché for no reason. Just make sure there's thought behind it and don't overdo. If you find yourself using too many, go back to canon and your own Fraser backstory and see what else you could use instead.

So that's about all I can come up with for now. Not everyone is going to love writing Fraser (which doesn't mean that they don't love him, heavens, no) but I hope my suggestions helped make it a little easier for people that struggle with it. I also hope someone makes a "Writing Vecchio" post, because I could really use some advice. I love him a lot but he's way hard for me to write.

Date: 2007-08-09 09:27 am (UTC)
sage: Still of Natasha Romanova from Iron Man 2 (fraser by pearl_o)
From: [personal profile] sage
omg, this is fantastic! And wow, video! \o/

Thank you SO much for putting this together!

Date: 2007-08-09 10:08 am (UTC)
china_shop: Fraser giving thumbs up (Fraser thumbs up)
From: [personal profile] china_shop
Oh, this is such a great primer! Yay! :-)

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Date: 2007-08-09 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the_antichris.livejournal.com
Eeee, this is fantastic! *recaptures Fraser love liek whoa* And I didn't say when I saw it in AuK's journal (mostly because what I had to say was IAWTC), but I love your version of Fraser's grandparents. It rings very true. I'm really interested in the First Nations/Inuit connection too - I hope I can do it justice one day.

In conclusion, FRASER. \o/

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Date: 2007-08-09 10:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melpemone.livejournal.com
This is excellent, thank you so much! :-) I've added it to my memories to pull out when I get stuck on Fraser-voice - which does happen if you've been away from the canon too long, I agree.

For the record, I also agree on the Benton thing. Paul Gross calls him Benton too, which seals the matter for me. *g*

Date: 2007-08-09 11:06 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] luzula
Thank you! This is really helpful. Fraser does come easy for me too (I guess he's the character I identify with most), but still, it's easy to forget aspects of him.

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Date: 2007-08-09 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_scally/
What an amazing essay!
Thank you kindly! :-)

Date: 2007-08-09 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonflymuse.livejournal.com
Wonderfully crafted essay, with LOTS of resource material!

I can only imagine how hard it was to write on Fraser (FRASER!!!) and keep it under thousands of words :)

Date: 2007-08-09 02:01 pm (UTC)
starfishchick: (ds - fraser HOT - karabou)
From: [personal profile] starfishchick
This is GREAT! Wow, it's awesome. (FRASER!)

Thank you so much for doing this!

Date: 2007-08-09 02:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] hurry-sundown.livejournal.com
Fraser thinks perhaps you know him too well. *g*

Excellent post, baybee. I can't watch the vid-clips now, but I'm looking forward to it. Thanks so much for putting this together.

Date: 2007-08-09 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brynnmck.livejournal.com
Wow, what a wonderful resource. Thank you! I always envy people's ability to be so specific in these essays--your points are so clear and well thought out. Very impressive.

Personally, I really dig Fraser POV; Vecchio comes easiest for me, but Fraser is a fairly close second, and Kowalski's the one who's given me the most trouble. One of the things you articulate so well here is that Fraser is very much not what he appears to be on the surface--as you say, he does have a wonderfully dry (and occasionally goofy--cf the end of "A Cop, A Mountie, and A Baby") sense of humor, he's an incredibly manipulative bastard when he wants to be (and I say that with great affection, as his manipulation is never maliciously meant--if he's really pissed at you, you know it, no fucking around), and I think when he gets flustered or he's trying to deal with strong emotions, that's when he hides most behind the big words and the Inuit stories; sometimes I think the more he feels, the more formal he gets. It's a fine line between, yes, he does have a great vocabulary and he does speak more formally as a habit, but he's also often using words very deliberately, for some effect--whether to distract or evoke some emotion or maintain some distance or whatever. And then it's fun to play with when he is extremely direct, because it really stands out. (In one of my ficlets, I have him giving Dief some long speech about why the Rays have apparently forgotten his [Fraser's] birthday, and it's all formal formal formal blah blah and then he ends with, "Oh, shut up." Because I think Fraser is very snarky when provoked, especially with Bob and Dief. This is similar to the snippet you posted above--yeah, he's a pretty buttoned-up guy, but it doesn't mean he can't know/like Three Dog Night--you just have to get to know him well to find out about it.)

I will also say that I find myself having to take out a lot of "Ray"s in Fraser's speech. I try to avoid the "Ray Ray Ray" thing for the most part, but I am very prone to using "Ray" at least once in most of Fraser's sentences, and I have to restrain myself. Hee.

stammers around his female admirers but it's not for lack of confidence, it's from lack of interest and embarrassment at being fawned over and objectified. I mean, really, this is NOT a guy who lacks self-confidence with a lover. He just has to be interested

That is an EXCELLENT distinction, I'd never thought about it that way.

Also, I wanted to throw in that Fraser dialogue/POV is actually very cool to me in that it allows you a bit more poetic use of language, which is nice, sometimes. Of course, that can go too far, but I never have to stop and go, "hmm, would Fraser know that word?" because of course he does, and probably the whole etymology of it, too. :)

(And I'd be willing to attempt a "Writing Vecchio" post at some point (in my own LJ, if not here), but I'm not sure if it would come out nearly as good as this one. :) )

Thanks again!!! Fantastic essay.

Date: 2007-08-09 04:14 pm (UTC)
catwalksalone: happy grey cat surrounded by flowers (Mountie oh so pretty)
From: [personal profile] catwalksalone
This is soooooooooooooooo fantastic. I find Fraser so. Very. Hard. Which is why he's barely appeared in my fic (that and my love for Ray/Ray is unquantifiable). I am definitely going to be using this as a guide for if/when he next wants to be written.

I'm glad you mentioned the run-on sentences because that's one of the things I love most about him, the way he punctuates his little tangents almost as if to remind himself not to forget to get back to the original topic. Plus the asides are often a lovely peek into his personality. *hearts*

Thank you so much.

Date: 2007-08-09 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nos4a2no9.livejournal.com
Cat, pleeeeese write about Fraser! Please! Prove your love by putting him in something: a snippet, a drabble, even a mini-drabble! I'm so desperate to read your Fraser it is sickening. Pleeeeese!

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Date: 2007-08-09 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charashi.livejournal.com
This is fantastic, hon! I think you've got a great sense of Fraser and what he's all about. Especially his little speech quirks and things, like the run-on sentences, and for me when I'm reading a fic it's more important than almost anything else that I be able to hear the characters.

The one thing I'd somewhat disagree with you on is that really, Fraser does get pretty damn nervous around women. I don't think it's a matter of self-confidence, as I absolutely agree with you that confidence is one of the things he really doesn't lack at all even in relationships. But post-Victoria he gets pretty obviously skittish with them, it seems to me, and even when he does sort of get things going (with Janet, with Thatcher) he pretty easily lets those go under the flimsiest of excuses (he let his father push him away from Janet so easily!). I don't think it's a lack of self confidence, but I do think he lacks confidence in relationships.

Date: 2007-08-09 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nos4a2no9.livejournal.com
Thank you so much for putting all of this together! You did a fabulous job (the "do's and don'ts" section was particularly helpful) and I'm feeling much more confident in writing Fraser. My Fraser POV (both first and third person) tends to come off as a bit ponderous, and so I was very gratful for the reminder that while Fraser does have an extensive vocabulary, his normal speech is relatively clipped and he does use contractions and slang terms. And thanks for pointing out that Fraser does lie, cry, and get angry: I've read a lot of fics that treat him as a paragon of human virtue and as much as I adore the man, he's not perfect, nor is he a Vulcan. :-)

The video links you provided are a wonderful resource, and I hope everyone will take your advice and come up with their own Fraser canon in addition to the canon provided by the show and the Fraser Fics of Greatness. And then I hope they'll write about it. Great job on this essay.

Date: 2007-08-09 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brigantine.livejournal.com
Thank you for the little He Does and He Doesn't lists! Those are some key things, but they're east to forget in the heat of the writing spurt. Alas. :P

Date: 2007-08-09 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeymvt.livejournal.com
Wow, you really do know a lot about Fraser, don't you?

Now I want to go back and watch S1 and S2- something I haven't done in a really long time.

Date: 2007-08-10 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ultra-chrome.livejournal.com
Way awesome!

The list of do's and don'ts is particularly wonderful, imo. The best thing about Fraser is that you can have him do almost anything if you can logic it out well enough. BUT! The list of things you put are things that no amount of logic are going to change.

About the drinking thing. I wrote Fraser drinking once and I justified it in my head with the memory of An Invitation to Romance. The scene where he's locked in the room with what's her name. He says he doesn't drink often and he thinks that people that do are trying to forget. Then she comes on to him and he reaches for the bottle. So yes, he'll drink on the odd occasion, but it has to be the right one.

On the whole, I find Fraser easy, but it's great to have something I can look at back at to make sure I haven't gone off the rails.

Thank you.

Date: 2008-10-11 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bakaknight.livejournal.com
Matter of fact, I did read over this post a while ago. And then I found myself watching him carefully for all those deflection moments.
-cough- That, ah, led me to watching RayV.
That ramble of mine from last night?
Your fault.

Date: 2009-09-25 10:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verushka70.livejournal.com
...just wandering by, needing some meta-distraction...

I agree about Fraser not being as ignorant of pop culture as he's made out to be in some fics. I mean, after he's blind in North and Ray is carrying him, they're singing The Mamas & The Papas' "California Dreamin'". Admittedly, Fraser doesn't know all the words -- but Ray definitely doesn't, either, and if either of them would, you'd think it would be Ray, who surely grew up with more TV, American Bandstand, Soul Train, etc. than Fraser ever did. So. Just... agreeing. *g*

Date: 2010-04-12 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mamaffy.livejournal.com
I am way late and I am not sure how I ended up here, I started out in ds_meta. :)

Anyway, I wanted to tell you YES. I loved reading this and I think you put a label on some things that slightly went against my understanding of him but I couldn't quite put my finger on it.

I adore RayK, which is mainly due to the fact that CKR brought me to fandom but I think I prefer early Fraser. That synchronized dialogue scene fills me with glee. And I agree, Fraser is not socially inept, or slow in the uptake or without humor. And he can be pissy. The banter with RayV is so awesome! Basically, I needed to let you know how much I nodded reading this. :)

Do you, by any chance, remember which video you posted as an argument that he is not insecure around women. The video is not up anymore and I'd like to know which scene you are referring to.


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Date: 2010-06-01 05:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peoriapeoria.livejournal.com
Might there be a way to view Fraser's upbringing, the hyperlink seems to be to a bad gate...


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